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This source for the podcast discussion is a transcribed interview from the Library of Congress’s American Folklife Center, conducted in 1986 with a 17-year-old white male in White Pine, Tennessee. The interview delves into the young man’s belief in Bigfoot, a creature he claims to have seen in the local woods, as well as his experiences with other unusual phenomena, like disappearing caves. The interview highlights the tension between skepticism and acceptance of the unusual, particularly when encountering beliefs ingrained in local lore.
[Joe]
All right strap in everybody because this deep dive is gonna take us right to Bigfoot country. Oh, yeah, you know you sent over this interview transcript from the Library of Congress. Uh-huh and well, let me tell you It’s pretty wild.
Yeah, it’s this 17-year-old kid. Okay from White Pine, Tennessee Mm-hmm, and he claims that he had a face-to-face run-in with Bigfoot Whoa and get this this area he’s talking about already has like a reputation Oh, really for some seriously strange stuff going on interesting. So yeah buckle up.
[Tammy]
I am it’s gonna be a good one So what makes this case so interesting is that you know, it’s not just a quick glimpse this kid He gives a super detailed description of what he saw. Yeah, what do you say talking eight- or nine-feet tall Wow? Covered in thick hair.
Oh, wow and a face that’s really hard to put into words He said the hair was like two inches long.
[Joe]
Yeah, it’s crazy and he couldn’t describe the face exactly, right? But he said you just know it when you see it.
[Tammy]
Mm-hmm. Almost like it’s indescribable That’s something that comes up a lot in Bigfoot stories. Yeah, this idea that it’s like more than just a physical being Yeah, almost like it has a presence, right?
[Joe]
That’s just hard to explain and that makes getting good photographic evidence totally super difficult It’s like trying to catch a ghost on camera exactly but the visual isn’t even the wildest part of this Oh, really? He says he heard this growling sound. Oh, wow coming from the creature Which she later recognized From a Bigfoot movie get out of here get this He claims Bigfoot even threw a stick at them.
No way like they were aggravating it or something.
[Tammy]
Yeah, you know, there’s actually a whole area of research dedicated to analyzing these sounds what yeah they think are Bigfoot vocalizations. Wow. So, researchers use all this high-tech equipment to try and figure out if these sounds are made by animals that we already know Hmm, or if it’s something totally new so cool.
[Joe]
It’s a really cool blend of folklore and science Okay, but here’s where things take a turn for the bizarre Oh This kid and his cousin Were exploring the woods one day. Mm-hmm, and they came across these two gigantic cave entrances Whoa, they walked past one kept going found another one and then decided to head back, right? But when they got back to that first cave, yeah, it was gone.
[Tammy]
What vanish? Oh my gosh, like without a trace Wow, they never found either of the caves ever again That’s the part of the story that like really gets you right don’t disappear in caves are tough to explain away Yeah, there’s a few possibilities though. Well, maybe it was a landslide Oh, yeah, or some other natural event right that really changed the terrain.
I mean nature can be really powerful Absolutely, or maybe it’s just childhood memory, you know, oh, yeah playing tricks totally, but then there’s that nagging possibility Yeah, what if it was something we just can’t explain right something that bends the rules of reality as we know it the story actually gets weirder.
[Joe]
Oh, no He mentions hearing about somebody else who saw a tall hunched-over figure walking on its knuckles through the water Oh my near some old lead mines in the area Wow It’s like this whole area is a hotspot. Yeah, strange encounters.
[Tammy]
That’s where local folklore comes in Even without concrete evidence, yeah, these recurring stories and beliefs in a community Well, they create like a shared mythology. Yeah, and it shapes how people understand unusual events It’s like a shared lens for looking at the world. Exactly Yeah, it’s like the landscape itself is just filled with these stories.
It makes even the most normal places feel kind of spooky Okay, let’s get back to those caves though.
[Joe]
Yeah, two massive cave entrances just poof disappear Yeah, it’s the kind of stuff that keeps you up at night. I know What are some other explanations besides a landslide or a bad memory?
[Tammy]
Well, if we entertain the idea that something really unexplainable did happen then it opens up all these possibilities like what? Imagine like a localized seismic event Something so specific that it causes a cave-in Yeah, or like a shift in the terrain right without leaving any other traces.
[Joe]
So like a mini earthquake Yeah, just in that one spot Exactly.
[Tammy]
It’s not impossible, especially in areas with lots of geological activity, right? Or maybe a sudden intense rainstorm to heard a flash flood. Oh, wow or erosion, you know Yeah, and that could reshape the landscape really quickly.
[Joe]
I guess if the entrance got totally buried or washed away Mm-hmm, it would explain why they couldn’t find the caves again precisely.
[Tammy]
Yeah nature can be pretty unpredictable Totally but even with all those possibilities Yeah idea that two large cave entrances, right could just vanish It’s crazy.
[Joe]
It’s still mine, but it really makes you wonder Yeah If there are these forces at work that we just don’t understand yet like maybe there are aspects of reality that are beyond what we can grasp Scientifically, that’s a good point. I mean our understanding of the universe Right is constantly evolving totally what we think is impossible today might be common knowledge tomorrow so how do we square this young man’s experience with the Lack of evidence that we usually see with Bigfoot.
[Tammy]
That’s the big problem with cryptozoology, isn’t it? We’re dealing with eyewitness accounts right often from people who are absolutely convinced of what they saw Yeah, but they rarely come with the kind of proof that science needs So it’s like this push and pull between personal experience and scientific validation Exactly. Yeah, and it brings up these interesting questions about what about belief perception, right?
And the limits of what we can observe as humans.
[Joe]
That’s a good point.
[Tammy]
What if there are things that exist? Yeah, just outside of what we can normally perceive Wow things that only show up under certain conditions or to certain people That’s a really trippy thought I know What about that other story he talked about the figure walking on its knuckles near the water right is that just another Bigfoot Hard to say for sure. Yeah, without more details, right, but the description is interesting.
What about it, especially that knuckle walking part? That’s not something humans typically do right and it makes you think of something more primal.
[Joe]
Yeah, something more like our evolutionary ancestors It’s like our brains are just automatically searching for an explanation Yeah, even if that explanation comes from folklore or mythology exactly.
[Tammy]
We naturally want to fill in the blanks Yeah, try to make sense of the unknown By using stories we owe right even if those stories are based on fantasy or legend, right? But sometimes yeah, the best stories are the ones that are hard to categorize, right? The ones that leave us with more questions than answers.
[Joe]
So, we’ve got this young man who? Claims to have seen Bigfoot heard its growls and even had a stick thrown at him crazy We’ve got those vanishing caves right and this shadowy figure walking on his knuckles near the water It’s a bunch of events that just don’t make sense.
[Tammy]
Yeah, and that’s what makes this deep dive. So interesting, right? It’s totally it makes us look at what we know and what we don’t know Yeah, and except the fact that there might be things out there.
[Joe]
We’ll never understand this case really shows How powerful personal testimony can be definitely even if we can’t prove what he experienced scientifically Yeah, the detail in his story and how sincere he is, right makes it hard to just ignore it Absolutely, his story reminds us that personal experience can be a powerful thing Yeah, it can shape our beliefs right and make us consider ideas that are different from our own
[Tammy]
It’s a good reminder that there are many ways of knowing and understanding the world.
[Joe]
I You’ve spent a lot of time researching these kinds of stories I have These encounters with the unknown as anything about this particular story stood out to you, you know what strikes me is this idea of liminal spaces.
[Tammy]
Oh, yeah, those in-between places where our world and something else Well the line between them seems to blur like the edge of the woods or those lead mines exactly Yeah, these places are usually tied to Folklore and legends right places where people say they feel uneasy or more aware of the unknown Yeah caves, especially are important in a lot of cultures Mmm seen as portals to another world or places where supernatural beings live
[Joe]
So, the fact that he saw those massive caves and then they disappeared right that could make the whole Bigfoot thing even more
[Tammy]
Otherworldly exactly Wow, it adds to the mystery hints that maybe there are forces
[Joe]
We just don’t get and his description of Bigfoot. Yeah, it’s huge hairy creature Right with a face that’s hard to describe that plays into our deepest fears of the wild the unknown Yeah, the things hiding in the dark.
[Tammy]
It’s like those stories tap into a part of us. We all share Yeah, they remind us of we’re not that different from our ancestors.
[Joe]
Mm-hmm the world is still full of mysteries that science can’t explain well after this deep dive I think we have more questions than answers. Yeah, but maybe that’s the whole point Maybe maybe it’s not about finding proof right but about expanding what we think is possible Yeah, I agree what could be out there really what we don’t understand yet.
[Tammy]
It’s the search for the unknown Yeah, the will to question things the courage to be open to mystery, right?
[Joe]
That’s what really helps us understand the world if I learned one thing from this deep dive Yeah, it’s that we should never underestimate the power of personal experience This guy’s encounter. Yeah, whether we can explain it or not, right?
[Tammy]
It reminds us of there’s still so much we don’t know about the world and that’s what makes exploring the paranormal so interesting Holy it challenges us to think differently Yeah to question everything to be open to the possibility of something more Yeah, something that could change how we see what’s real.
[Joe]
That’s a great point to wrap things up on It is all our listeners out there. We want to hear from you. Yeah, have you had an experience that?
You just can’t explain.
[Tammy]
Oh, yeah.
[Joe]
What do you think about this? Bigfoot encounter. Hmm the mystery of the vanishing caves Definitely or the idea of these liminal spaces share your stories with us Yeah, we’re always excited to dive deeper into the paranormal always and explore the unknown together.
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